Thursday, August 14, 2008

Neither good news nor bad news, possibly not even news: buzz on the web about Senator Clinton's name in nomination

Today's early morning buzz on the web includes unsubstantiated reports that the Clinton and Obama campaigns will be ensuring that the Senator Clinton's name will indeed placed be in nomination at the convention. Also unsubstantiated are various other claims about Senator Clinton's or her campaign's position on the matter.

Since no sources are named in the reports, I do not know whether to place any stock in them. Remember the silliness over the Daily News story which relied on unnamed sources to report on Senator Clinton's views about her name being placed in nomination?

Frankly, it still seems to me that it is Dr. Dean's responsibility, not either of the candidates', to announce whose names will be entered into nomination at the convention. Dr. Dean is the Democratic Party Chair, this is the Democratic Party Convention, and therefore the Democratic Party Chair has the responsibility to run the Convention, first according to Party rules, and second, by exercising good judgment when judgment calls are necessary.

Should Dr. Dean emerge - he's been very quiet lately, which is what his office told me his plan has been - I hope that he will be making it clear that if both candidates' names are indeed placed in nomination, it is for the sake of giving each a genuinely equal opportunity to be elected, at the convention, as the Party's choice for nominee. Of course, either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton could decline the nomination if offered, as that is the prerogative of any candidate at such time. But neither candidate should be expected to telegraph in advance whether or not he or she will accept or decline the nomination if offered it as a result of a meaningful, open, fair and free floor vote. In politics and government, as in so many other things, it makes no sense to foreclose options any sooner than one must.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Dr. Li:

Thank you for all you have done to try to ensure that Senator Clinton has the opportunity to have her name put into nomination at the convention -- an opportunity that she truly has earned and that is consistent with convention rules. Your efforts in this regard no doubt have been noted, but you are wise to wait to see what the official word is.

August 14, 2008 at 12:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard the announcement on FoxNews
@ 12:22pm, released statement by the Obama campaign that Sen. Clinton's name will be placed in
nomination at the convention. That's all that I've heard, so far.

August 14, 2008 at 2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, her name will be in nomination, but will her delegates be allowed to cast their votes for her? What back-room deals, threats, pressure has been applied to Hillary delegates to ensure that Obama gets the nomination without any trouble from Hillary supporters? Will this convention really be "democracy in action" or just another pretense by the DNC and Obma/maniacs?

August 14, 2008 at 3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I knew I was being smart about waiting to get too happy. The only way this will be resolved if The Denver Groups desire's are met. This cannot be just symbolic for this Dem to remain one.

Thanks for the caution and info.


August 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And what will happen to the WI delegate who was booted from her delegate status - Deb Bartovetisch (sp?)?

If a true vote occurs, will she be allowed to vote? Nope, the Obamabots made sure of that.


August 14, 2008 at 4:36 PM  
Anonymous hill4pres said...

Congratulations and Thank You, Heidi - for all your work and effort.

3 of us will be in Denver and hope to be with other Hillary supporters.

All the Best.

August 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM  
Anonymous Carolyn Mann said...

I'm also dubious that this gesture is anything but a gesture, or that a meaningful vote will be held. And like anonymous above, how this is all handled will decide whether I remain a Democrat.

August 14, 2008 at 8:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the Obama camp has has been allowed to purge any and all from the delegations who might not roll over for them, what difference will it make?

August 14, 2008 at 9:19 PM  
Anonymous BAJ said...

Contact / talk to your state's Super Delegates, especially if you're in a state the HRC won. Tell them you expect that they will represent the state accurately and vote for HRC in Denver. Point out that their job is to pick a winner, and the polls certainly don't show Obama as that. (Rasmussen today - he's dropped again - to 43%.)

August 14, 2008 at 9:21 PM  
Anonymous diana said...

It might be time to review that short video of Hillary speaking at a fundraiser a couple of weeks ago, when she first acknowledged that she thought her name in nomination would be good for party unity. (Link below)
Toward the middle of the clip, she says that there should be a plan, that everyone should know what that is, and then it would just be executed smoothly. I remember wondering at the time what she had in mind. The news today made me recall that portion of the clip. Perhaps you know (or can better guess) what Hillary meant by that.
I am uncomfortable with a pre-determined outcome, only partially because I'm pro-Hillary. I am also pro-clean process, so I cringe when I hear her say "and then we nominate Barack Obama..."
What do you make of this reference to a plan?

YouTube link:

August 14, 2008 at 9:33 PM  
Anonymous diana said...

One more thing on that YouTube video that I noticed. Just before the "plan" comments, Hillary is asked if it is normal for these *negotiations* to take place. She starts to answer, then redirects her response to how quickly she acted to endorse Obama.

She's not going to shoot herself in the foot thinking that somehow this would promote party unity, right?

August 14, 2008 at 9:45 PM  
Blogger scruz said...

please don't let this movement to make sure the democrats are democratic die. regardless of what happens, we need to make sure that there is one person, one vote. Thanks Ms. Feldman for your hard work. Guide us in what to do and we will back you up.

August 14, 2008 at 9:58 PM  
Anonymous ainnj said...


No one, absolutely NO ONE has done more to make sure this Democratic Party behaves democratically. Never doubt that you did all you could and more. No matter the outcome, you are my hero and you have given me back the faith that we still have a chance to turn this country around, even if it's just a little bit of a turn at a time.

Thank you!


August 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM  
Anonymous Memorye said...


Please take of yourself . We need you . Thank you for all that you are doing. I still believe this sounds good.

Hillary and Heidi 08

August 14, 2008 at 10:50 PM  
Anonymous Memorye said...

I second your comment, ainnj.

August 14, 2008 at 10:54 PM  

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