Saturday, August 23, 2008

Free facts: About Joe Biden

Bearing in mind that The Democratic Party does not yet have even an official presumptive nominee and that delegates to the convention may decline to elect the vice-presidential preference of the presidential nominee elected at the convention on Thursday, one of the candidate's names who will be in nomination has text messaged his preferred vice-presidential pick. At about 3 a.m. last night (early this morning), Senator Obama sent word that he would like to run with Senator Joe Biden.

As I have said repeatedly, vice-presidential candidates do not win or lose presidential elections. Rightly the American public understands that a vote for the President of the country is a vote for the person running for President. But since the mainstream media is already busy covering this announcement, I thought it appropriate to highlight the facts about Joe Biden that I think would be most relevant were he to actually end up Senator Obama's running mate against John McCain this November. The facts I regard as relevant for these purposes pertain to how the Republicans will portray Joe Biden.
  • Senator Biden, aged 65, has served in the U.S. Senate for 30 years, representing Delaware, one of the wealthiest states in the country (ninth according to per capita income). Senator Biden is in his sixth term.
  • He launched unsuccessful bids for the Democratic party's nomination in both 1988 and 2008, but backed out early in both campaigns.
  • In 1988, part of why Biden had to pull out of the race was that he was caught plagiarizing in his campaign speeches, lifting passages without attribution, from British Labour leader Neil Kinnock and Robert F. Kennedy.
  • In 2004, Senator Biden urged John Kerry to choose Senator John McCain as Senator Kerry's vice-presidential running mate (yes, this true.)
This list is not exhaustive. But it does make me wonder about the wisdom of this particular pick. I realize though that Senator Obama did not have many options, since so many senior Democrats had announced that they would not run on the ticket with him even were a spot offered.


Blogger Marsha said...

Yes. Although I really like Biden as a man and as a Senator who has worked well across party lines, I too can see the tv ads portraying Biden as McCain's surrogate. Also Biden and McCain used to appear often on Sunday morning political shows and there are many images of the two of them being quite "chummy".

August 23, 2008 at 11:05 AM  
Blogger Double Jointed Fingers said...

Heidi, it was Biden's vote in favor of the 2005 Republican Bankruptcy Bill that did it for me. Thousands of people out of work, with not health insurance, etc. and he sided with the credit card companies.

How does that work in this economy where things have only gotten worse?

It think this is a very poor choice.

August 23, 2008 at 11:10 AM  
Blogger PositiveMode said...

I think it is a good pick. Biden is right on most of the issues, a good campaigner, and a respectable person.

August 23, 2008 at 11:29 AM  
Blogger Annie said...

Whatever one thinks of Larry Sinclair's claims , the fact remains Joe Biden's son, the Attorney General of Delaware, was involved in the Washinton DC arrest of Sinclair. The AG of Delaware issued the warrant. So perhaps Biden's ability to "fix" problems impressed Obama? Obama always reaches for the fixer.

The stealing of others words is another kindred point between between them. Looking back , perhaps Obama's choice should have been obvious all along.

August 23, 2008 at 11:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And so it comes to pass that the one who vociferously was proud of his anti-war stance, no vote needed, suddenly found the one who voted for the same war quite acceptable.

Too, the one who is touted to have 200 or may be 300 of the best Americans minds to formulate foreign policy, needed just one more.

And too, the one who persumes so much is joined by the one about whom we always presumed something, but never quite sure what.

Indeed, Arrogance just liked what it saw across the table, a self reflected.

Boy are the Dems doomed!

August 23, 2008 at 12:17 PM  
Blogger CognitiveDissonance said...

Something I'll never forget about Biden is how he presided over the lynching of Anita Hill in the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings. What kind of a message is Obama once again sending to women with this pick?

August 23, 2008 at 3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Biden is a Catholic who was born in Scranton, PA. Now that would not have anything to do with his choice, would it?

August 23, 2008 at 5:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heidi, after reading the news stories about Obama's selection of Biden, I came to similar conclusions about the reasons for this choice. Basically, when Obama called, Biden was home.

August 23, 2008 at 6:32 PM  
Blogger Still4Hill said...

Cinie - you're funny. There wasn't much of a pool I guess once you narrow it down to:
1 -not Hillary
2 -not politicians as usual

-actually, after 2 - that's it!

August 23, 2008 at 10:36 PM  
Blogger glennmcgahee said...

I think I have to agree about the possibility that Biden's son insisted that his father take the nod or else he would release Larry Sinclair. It does bring attention to Larry's story. How can the media ignore Sinclair now that Biden is gonna get alot of attention. BTW, just think about Chris Mathews tingling legs. He's had Biden on Hardball more than any other politico. There sure is plenty of video for the Republicans to use.

August 24, 2008 at 9:43 AM  
Blogger wlm said...

glennmcgahee, I guess the Hillary "grass roots" are only doing the due diligence in these matters. It's amazing what the press is not providing to citizens. wlm

August 24, 2008 at 11:45 PM  
Blogger jkneer672 said...

I think this was a poor choice on many fronts.One, Biden has been a Washington insider longer than McCain has so there goes the change argument for Obama, & I do not care if he went home to Delaware every night. Second, Biden bonly recieved about 5000 votes while running when Hillary had over 1.5 million. Three, there is 30 yrs. worth of gaffes,blunders,& mistakes for the conservatives to go after on Biden. One more issue I have is I am sick and tired of the Obama campaign blowing off the Hillary supporters the way they are doing. They keep saying that the Clintons will support Obama for the benefit of the party, and ultimately all of the upset women will come to his side cause thats what Dem's do. Whatever, they keep dismissing everyone that supports Hillary and this whole roll call vote is a farce.They refuse to accept the credibility of the discourse Hillary supporters have with him and I do not see this changing at all.

August 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM  

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