Sunday, August 24, 2008

Confusion and illusion: the DNCC and DNC continuing efforts keep pretending that the convention is a done deal

News has arrived that Florida and Michigan will be seated, literally seated in prominent places in the Pepsi Center.
As a measure of a party united, the Florida delegation will be seated just off to the left of the Delaware folks, the Michigan delegation just off to the right from Illinois. There was a time, during the contentious party primaries, when none of those delegates might even have been promised a seat here. [source]
What is not clear from these early news reports is whether the delegations are being seated as the voters in Michigan - that is with no Michigan delegates going to Senator Obama, who was not on the ballot there and with Senator Clinton's 4 add-on delegates in place.

At least one news source is falling for the party line:
a tightly scripted convention geared to the outcome party leaders keep saying is a done deal, an Obama-Biden ticket for this fall. McClatchy News writes:
The step won't make any difference in the outcome, even though most of the delegates' involved are pledged to Hillary Clinton; Barack Obama already has enough delegates to win the nomination.
But Senator Obama does not in fact have enough delegates to win the nomination. He is in the same position as Senator Clinton. Neither won enough pledged delegates during the primary season to qualify as the automatic nominee, presumptive or otherwise. Since the party is allegedly holding a roll call vote with both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama's names in nomination, superdelegates - who will decide the contest and who may vote for either candidate on the first and any subsequent ballots could treat the press, the public, and the DNC Party leaders themselves to surprise. Sure, a Clinton nomination would be an upset, but elections have produced upsets before.

Meanwhile, the DNCC official press releases do not discuss the roll call nor the specifics of the Michigan/Florida seating. Instead we learn that a tribute to Senator Edward Kennedy will take place - but no word from the DNCC on whether Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones will get any sort of recognition - and that the DNCC and Obama campaign have announced Women's Caucus speakers in a press release that makes nary a mention of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Pretending that Senator Obama has won the floor vote smacks of trickery. The other measures being taken all point to the Party's misguided efforts to downplay Senator Clinton, her top surrogates, her delegates and her rank and file supporters. The DNCC, Senator Obama, and the DNC are of course free to try to confuse and deceive people with such measures. But even if they manage to put on a boring if predictable TV series next week, the best that can do is create the illusion of consensus in the Party. I continue to believe in and fight for the procedural measures that I think might actually bring about the sort of durable, real consensus that could land a Democrat in the White House in November.


Blogger Charles said...

If Hillary had run in 2004 but Kerry still had gotten the nomination would you have voted for Bush? Will you subject this nation to another 4 years of Bush-style policies out of spite for Obama? And in hopes that the only true candidate can run in 2012 (assuming we still have a democracy then)? Why don't you just write-in Dick Cheney instead? COMNTSMF (Cutting Off My Nose To Spite My Face) might be a better acronym for this movement but if McCain is elected because of your abandoning the Democratic party you will be forever known as PUMAs (Pushed Up My Ass!). Bill certainly believes in a cult of personality but I doubt Hillary really does. I would love for her to be the first female President of the United States but I think it's pretty stupid (and selfish) to try to ruin any chance of a Democratic presidency until she's the only candidate. I'm a Democrat, not a Obama-maniac but I don't want another 4 years of right-wing disasters!

August 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM  
Blogger Valhalla said...

The Unity embassadors are just charming.


The process of democracy is more important than any one election or candidate, Charles.

And never more so in the face of bullying actions by one faction, as you have so aptly demonstrated in your comment.

Heidi, I can't thank you enough for your unflagging efforts for the country, the Party, and most of all, the process.

I was very skeptical of any success at the beginning, but your reasoned and well-tempered persistence on advocating for what is right inspire me. Thank you.

August 24, 2008 at 6:31 PM  
Blogger democraticjack said...

This is for Charles.

Hillary did not run in 2004. She waited. If she had run and lost legitimately then there would be no PUMA.
As for your other nonsense if this last primary process is an example of what we can expect from this Democratic presidential nominee and the current DNC leadership, then there is not a dimes worth of difference between them and the current administration. Obama and McCain are merely two selections on the same menu. You are putting a party which no longer exists before your country.
Not one of us owes Barack Obama a single thing and after fighting hard to gain a Congressional majority, they rewarded us by laying down and letting their Republican bretheren run all over them. They all just want the power. Forget about what we need, we are only useful during the elections.

August 24, 2008 at 6:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not understand the problem, Charles. Remember this statement on 01.31.2008:

"I am confident I will get her votes if I'm the nominee," Obama stressed. "It's not clear she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee."

August 24, 2008 at 6:38 PM  
Blogger shestheone said...

Though Heidi's efforts are attempting to prevent that 4 more year Republican nightmare you speak of, Charles, I believe the current behavior of the DNC is going to deliver precisely what you fear. And it will be on the heads (buried in the sand as they are) of people like you who failed to stand up for a fair and transparent process. In the world of true Democrats, the ends simply do not justify the means and millions- myself included - will vote McCain this year to drive this point home.

August 24, 2008 at 6:39 PM  
Blogger A.Citizen said...

What is it about Democracy you don't understand?

All votes need to be counted fairly.

And your whole argument falls to pieces when you really do compare Obama to McCaine. There is very little difference between how either of them would govern. The Govenrment that you think you can influence is owned, lock stock and barrel, by BIg Oil, Big Pharma and BIg Ag, and it will do as it is told by it's owners.

Ever hear of the Hamilton Group?

Douglas Kmeic?

Obama has.

The idea that the 'Democrat' Party is any different, at this point in time, than the ReThugs is just laughable.

'Impeachment is off the table...' should have been yer first clue.

August 24, 2008 at 6:42 PM  
Blogger Patricia said...

Thank you Heidi for all that you do for our democracy,

You remind us that America is not just a country populated by many different ethnic and social groups in different parts of the country. It is an idea to which we all subscribe, and that idea is Democracy. The belief in that idea is what bonds us together and makes us American. We need to keep that in mind and continue to protect our Democracy and fight against those who attempt to corrupt it. You help us do just that.

August 24, 2008 at 8:53 PM  
Blogger Jon said...


Just found your site. I'm here in Denver and would like to get involved.

Here's my response to Charles....he's just another vile anonymous internet coward that was partly responsible for the incredible rift in the party. When we were passionately supporting Hillary, people like Charles were throwing insults and vile language.

Regarding Hillary, if Obama wins I fear Hillary will NEVER be President. She is 62 this year. Will this country really elect her at 70 years old? The rules (unfairly) are different for women. We all remember the snide comments about Hillary's clothes, etc. during the primaries. This is our chance.

Besides Democrats will have large (maybe fillibuster proof in the Senate) majorities in both houses, so McCain would get very little of what he wants. He is the definition of a one-term President and Hillary would clean up in 2012. That has to be our goal.

Go HRC in 2012!!

August 25, 2008 at 2:18 PM  
Blogger Chris R said...

I hope that Elizabeth Joyce, who spoke to Larry King about the PUMA cause, will not get plastered by the same trollers like David for being brave enough to go on national television and speak before the country about how Obama expects Hillary voters to just fall in line like the Waffen-SS on parade. Hillary made poingant points about how Obama's healthcare coverage does not go far enough, and how his plan to extricate forces from Iraq is only generalized, and does not go into specifics of drawing down units in an organized fashion during her campaign, yet Obama has not changed his position a single whit. I voted for Hillary in the New York primary primarily because I saw in her a way to change America that is smooth, and that is effective. Obama, as he has shown in victory over Clinton, just expects his positions to be set in stone from the first day he started campaigning, and tramples over the democratic process of the primaries to win a somewhat brokered election. McCain is a joke of a candidate, and completely out of touch with what America has become in the past 8 years, and thinks that old ladies and men who are hard pressed financially to pay their healthcare bills do not need or want Social Security, or that people want to have affordable healthcare. Yet, McCain's incompetence doesn't automatically compel me to vote for Obama, who has his own problems that he has to iron out within his platform and his campaign, and he must do so to gain my vote.

August 27, 2008 at 2:06 AM  
Blogger Pastor Chris Keathly said...

The issue is not whether people are for Obama or Hillary, and the issue is not whether they are for reforms as a Democrat or hate what Bush has done for the last 4 years. The issue is will Democrats accept fraudulent and corrupt work by the DNC rather than hearing the clear voice of those who voted. Will the DNC begin to pick the candidates and the vote of the people is a joke or will the people stand up and not endorse a DNC candidate sending a clear message that democracy is alive and well in the United States????

PS- I guess democracy in 48 states as FL democracy is not accepted by the DNC.

August 27, 2008 at 2:43 PM  

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